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Peter Dunn left a comment for ELZIERE Jean-Bernard
Hello Jean-Bernard, Can you contact me at pdpeterdunn@googlemail.com to discuss your request for my reconstruction of Yeavering. Best wishes, Peter
Dec 16, 2009
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ELZIERE Jean-Bernard left a comment for Peter Dunn
Dear Sir I am a french historian and I prepare a book about some encoded texts of the medieval period (XIIth and XIIIth centuries), whose the title will be : "Clés et secrets des grands récits mythiques de l'Occident…
Dec 16, 2009
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Peter Dunn replied to Geoff Carter's discussion 'Timber Circles - Could they be buildings'
Sorry about the length of time to respond I am slow at this type of communication. I find these structures and this period so fascinating it isn’t enough to just try and understand them structurally, the why and what for are as important as…
May 18, 2009
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Geoff Carter left a comment for Peter Dunn
Hi Peter, Thanks for the detailed and considered comment, I will post a detailed reply asap, probably in a forum. I am sorry, but I am dyslexic, and it takes me a little longer to write coherently, so expect delays. Another interesting topic would…
Apr 28, 2009
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Peter Dunn left a comment for Geoff Carter
Hi , I wanted to comment on Geoff’s blog re timber circles and Mike PP’s ideas. I am sure Mike doesn’t need me to defend his ideas but for what it is worth, I have worked with Mike in the past and closely followed the Stonehenge…
Apr 28, 2009
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Peter Dunn left a comment for Matthew Law
Hi , I wanted to comment on Geoff’s blog re timber circles and Mike PP’s ideas. I am sure Mike doesn’t need me to defend his ideas but for what it is worth, I have worked with Mike in the past and closely followed the Stonehenge…
Apr 28, 2009
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Hi , I wanted to comment on Geoff’s blog re timber circles and Mike PP’s ideas. I am sure Mike doesn’t need me to defend his ideas but for what it is worth, I have worked with Mike in the past and closely followed the Stonehenge…
Apr 27, 2009
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Matthew Law left a comment for Peter Dunn
Hi Peter, Stunning pictures!
Mar 18, 2009
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Peter Dunn is now a member of West Country Archaeologists Mar 15, 2009
I am an archaeological reconstruction artist, I spent from 1985 to 2007 with English Heritage Publications and Interpretation in London and then moved to Wiltshire working from home in Pewsey. Since leaving EH after artistic and moral differences I have worked as a freelance artist.
I am interested in most aspects of archaeology and any period I am working on at the time spanning from Boxgrove 500,000 years ago to WW1, but landscape and prehistory particularly the Neolithic fire my exitement and imagination.
I have recently started work on a large number of reconstructions for the Stonehenge Riverside Project.
I am happy to discuss all aspects of my work and most other things too, it may take time for me to reply as failing to grasp and being distustful of most new fangled things like web sites, blogs and CGI many things just disappear, this is my third attempt to do a profile.

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At 7:55pm on March 18, 2009, Matthew LawMatthew Law said…
Hi Peter,
Stunning pictures!
At 9:24am on April 27, 2009, Peter DunnPeter Dunn said…
Hi ,
I wanted to comment on Geoff’s blog re timber circles and Mike PP’s ideas.
I am sure Mike doesn’t need me to defend his ideas but for what it is worth, I have worked with Mike in the past and closely followed the Stonehenge Riverside Project, his ideas appear to me to be as considered and solid as any other archaeologist I have worked with (there have been quite a few) and far more so than some, I would have thought that the success of the SRP speaks for its self. Not the least of his attributes is he is enthusiastic and good to work with and has respect for others work, and importantly for mine too.
I am working my way though Theoretical Structural Archaeology, enjoying it and agreeing with a lot of the points made particularly on the interpretation or lack of interpretation of many aspects of sites with post holes and other sites in general particularly the preconceptions of excavators and simplistic or wrong explanations (or no explanation) trotted out to the public.
However the part of the proper study of mankind is post holes concerning timber circles particularly Durrington and Woodhenge I think is wrong. There is a good explanation of the changing interpretation of these monuments in Alex Gibson’s Stonehenge and Timber Circles chapter 6 and in Mike Pitt’s Henge World. Maud Cunnington the excavator of Woodhenge and the Sanctuary considered that woodhenge was the prototype for Stonehenge of free standing posts possibly with lintels echoing earlier views on Stonehenge’s “imitation of wooden architecture” and was also not convinced that the Sanctuary was roofed and Grahame Clark concluded that Arminghall was an open air temple . The roofed hypothesis had been proposed for Woodhenge by Cunnington’s nephew and much later by Stuart Piggot in 1940 drawing analogy with Brazilian round houses and Omaha Native American lodges but didn’t think this relevant to all timber circles. True the excavator of Durrington Geof Wainwright in the 60’s did go with the roofed building theory but in the Durrington Walls report Chris Musson although considering roofed building forms for Woodhenge, Durrington south and north and the Sanctuary concludes that “ the best hope for an all- embracing explanation lies in the idea of ritual or symbolic settings of free standing posts”.
In the usual calculations for interpreting the depth/height/diameter and function of the posts at Durrington and Woodhenge the depth of the largest rings of posts appear to be to a greater depth than would be nesseccary for a roofed building, the roof structure adding greater stability to the posts, but their depth is explained if they are interpreted as free standing with that extra need for stability.
Alex Gibson excavated Sarn y brn caled and considered it to be freestanding and linteled this emphasising the circularity of the arrangement.
The Riverside Project has recently produced further information for Durrington which makes the roofed theory unlikely for the S. Circle. There is no evidence of erosion due to the amount of water runoff which would come from such a large roof, the north western side of the circle is definitely incomplete in rows 2A and 2B in the area excavated to see if there was a rear entrance, this unfinished character making a roof unlikely. There is a tantalising possibility that a tree throw which occupies the position of the “missing” posts and contains worked flint possibly deliberately deposited , contained a standing tree incorporated into the circle or that the throw was surrounded by posts.
Then there is my own contribution to the debate for what it is worth (depending on whether you think reconstruction illustration/art influences archaeological thought) this I came up with when drawing a pen and ink illustration for Mike Parker Pearson’s Bronze Age Britain in 1992/93. I drew 4 different reconstructions of the south timber circle at Durrington they were based on the various theories proposed already, however these timber circles fascinated me and I spent many hours reading the Durrington volume and particularly pouring over the plans of the circles. It occurred to me that after the enormous entrance posts lead you into the circle the route to the centre was blocked by the posts 84 and 95 of rows D and C which lead you to the left in a clockwise and sun wise route between these rows. Since the idea of the free standing theory seemed more likely to me, Stonehenge was not roofed so why should timber versions of the same type of structure and if there were lintels as at Stonehenge then if you put lintels on the posts of the processional route this gave an extra sense of direction and force to the route it also fitted with the partial rammed chalk path on that route. Mike was ok with this idea and later showed me an article from I think Current Archaeology on Alex Gibbon’s reconstruction of Sarn y brn caled with lintels and pointing out how they enhanced the circularity of the monument which is certainly the case. So I think I may have been the first to suggest this route through the timbers.
Later in 1993 I did a colour eyelevel reconstruction of the Durrington South circle for the Grimes Graves guide which I suggested to the author as an example of the enormous constructions undertaken with flint and stone axes, this reconstruction has been used over and over again in EH books, guide books, exhibitions, other publications on the Neolithic and to illustrate the discovery of the massive (timber) rings at Stanton Drew in all the quality press in 1996. It also shows the circle with that same route accentuated by the use of lintels, due to the paintings use so many times and in so many types of media I hope this might have planted the idea elsewhere or got people to look again at what now appears to be the current interpretation amongst the experts.
The point is that no one has been suggesting that because the structure was probably not roofed this makes the structure less sophisticated or complex in fact they seem far more so, or that the people that built this and similar massive undertakings were a bit thick because they couldn’t get out of the rain and cold. The uncovering of the possibly hundreds of sophisticated and high status dwellings surrounding the circles at Durrington suggests that they could have open air ritual and a degree of comfort.
At 10:50am on April 28, 2009, Geoff CarterGeoff Carter said…
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the detailed and considered comment, I will post a detailed reply asap, probably in a forum. I am sorry, but I am dyslexic, and it takes me a little longer to write coherently, so expect delays.
Another interesting topic would be the effect that reconstructions have on perceptions of the past, and how academic theory is influenced by reconstructed images.
At 4:34am on December 16, 2009, ELZIERE Jean-BernardELZIERE Jean-Bernard said…
Dear Sir
I am a french historian and I prepare a book about some encoded texts of the medieval period (XIIth and XIIIth centuries), whose the title will be : "Clés et secrets des grands récits mythiques de l'Occident médiéval (XIIe et XIIIe s.)". I discovered a lot of interesting things dealing, for example, with England and Scotland, mainly with the beginnings of the Christianty in Northumbria or with the conquest of this area (York, Durham...) by norman troops a few years after Hastings : I am really interested by some kings, churchmen or earls (like William fitz Osbern, Waltheof / Waldef of Northumbria / Northumberland).
My book wil be illustrated with some nice images (seals, charters, graves, castles...) I already got from different museums and libraries.
If I could get the possibility from you and from English Heritage to use your nice reconstruction drawing of Saxon Yeavering AD 627, maybe I would be able to place it among them - it would be nice because that scene is important for one text I am working on -, but I am not able to buy it because I borrowed too much money to finish my research and I need some more to print it directly (I will be my own publisher and I will sell it directly. I am obliged to do like that to refund my friends...).
Sorry for my very bad english.
Best regards.

Jean-Bernard Elzière
Route d'Eygalières
13 930 Aureille
FRANCE

06 12 17 49 57

NB : here are some of my publications

. « Sud du Massif Central, Églises de Rhénanie et Royaume des Austrasiens à l’époque mérovingienne (VIe - VIIIe s.) », Bulletin monumental, t. 151 / 1 (1993), pp. 47-72.

. « Géopolitique de la Septimanie pendant le haut Moyen Age (Ve - VIIIe s.) », Saint-Guilhem-Le-Désert dans l'Europe du haut Moyen Age, Amis de Saint-Guilhem-Le-Désert, 2000.

. « À propos des fondations comtales d’établissements monastiques dans l’Occident carolingien (du début du VIIIe siècle à 877) », Saint-Guilhem-Le-Désert, Amis de Saint-Guilhem-Le-Désert, 2004.

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